Forensic Science Graduates Future In Malaysia

Written by WTJ on April 22, 2008 – 12:26 am -

Kean Jim showed me a letter wrote by Wyn regarding to the future of forensic science undergraduates in Malaysia (Letter was written in Chinese).

As it is a demand for forensic science in Malaysia, Malaysia Royal Police (PDRM) and Malaysia Chemistry Department (JKM) had introduced the course for Bachelor of Forensic Science degree in local university, USM. The course was designed by them to teach them all the knowledges one needed in investigating crime, handling evidences, court knowledges, and also all the boy steal to eat cookierelated skills. Wyn mentioned that after they graduate, there was no suitable positions in either PDRM or JKM. Wyn was confused why on earth the course was designed by them if it was not to train forensic professionals to aid in crime investigating. Wyn questioned if the course was designed just for the sack of it without thinking if there was any job vacancies for all the gradutes. PDRM explained that if people graduate with the degree, they need to be a police first before they can join their lab. Becoming a police in Malaysia is not an issue, but there is a minimum requirement as a police candidate, which is that one cannot wear spectacles (vision problems). As you know, science kids are nerds and most of us wear specs. JKM also rejected these undergraduates as they thought these people did not have enough chemistry knowledge (and the course was designed by JKM). Wyn also pointed out that one of the government owned TV channel was showing “Crime Scene Investigation” programme, which attracted more people considering taking forensic science degree.

Wyn felt lost as he did not know how would he do in the future. People who chose to take forensic science degree (as well as other degree) were not dumb, instead they were qualified to study medicine. We chose to do science was simply because we were really passionate in it. The same thing does not only happen on forensic science, but also biotechnology degree as government was promoting it heavily in recent years, and the job prospective in Malaysia is really bad (#).

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    11 Comments to “Forensic Science Graduates Future In Malaysia”

    1. Lau Says:

      i am thinking what can they do. PDRM and JKM might hire some of them, but surely not all.

      sales? perhaps.
      insurance agent? perhaps.
      teacher? perhaps…

      gosh, it’s so sound like the rest of biology-course-related graduates! :D

      we are boleh! ;)

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    3. WTJ Says:

      When I look at the course design, it was said that they only accept 30 applicants each year, and according to their research, Malaysia still lack 400~500 people at that time. It had been 8 years, if all 30 graduates are accepted, it is still not enough to fulfill the demand for forensic scientists. Besides that, the forensic departments have been giving talks to biotechnology students encouraging them to involve in forensic science. I guess they are still lack of forensic scientists.

    4. Kean-Jin Lim Says:

      They are lacking of forensic scientists, they are! Especially after the Mongolian case, it just like an awaken bomb to certain parties.

      When PDRM started the Malaysian DNA database project which meant for forensic usage, they actually need more forensic scientists or maybe scientists. They need people (not policeman) to operate the ABI sequencer, high throughput liquid handling machine, high throughput spotting machine, DNA extraction and isolation, DNA finger print, PCR amplification, or perhaps Bioinformatics too. However, the higher level of PDRM or JPA doesn’t make a move to amend the requirement for current need, we just end up nothing.

      We are not fully utilise all human resources we have trained in universities. Waste? It is indeed. Mind you, all the money spent in Universities to train these group of people are your tax money.

    5. 4896 » We have Bac. Forensic Sci. now but… Says:

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    6. WTJ Says:

      I believe a lot of rural places couldn’t get those high-tech equipments as well, that’s why they don’t need forensic scientists like that.

    7. Nerdy Science Blog » Blog Archive » Reasons to be, and Not to be a Scientist. Says:

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    9. Munira Says:

      This is an interesting post, indeed. Thank you for writing this up. I’m also quite aware of this policy, and have many questions of my own pertaining to the future of forensic science of our country. I hope they will resolve this issue soon, as there are many potential forensic scientists in Malaysia who are keen to serve the country, but are confounded by the ambiguity of the situation made by the powers-that-be. Such a pity, as I think the value of forensic science field is just as important as medicine, and just as tough.

    10. syuhada norman Says:

      is it right when people said not so many chances for a women to become a forensic scientist in msia?why?i really love this field.can any body explain to me especially those girls that graduated in this course.please……….

    11. WTJ Says:

      syuhada norman: it is possible for woman to work in forensic fields. I had seen the speakers for talks given by forensic department are majority women.

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